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    Post  SimonH Tue May 25, 2021 6:28 pm

    Hi all,
    Anybody have veiws on what size servos are suitable for a model about 1m long x 100mm dia? At the moment I am using TowerPro SG90 that seem to be digital servos about 22mm x 11mm body, but whilst they seem quite powerfull in my bench rig I'm not sure about what power is needed to actually move the rudder & stern 'planes, particularly after the friction of any sealing glands.
    I don't what to go too big due to lack of space (75mm OD WTB), but would quite like a controllable model!
    Thanks
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    Post  david f Wed May 26, 2021 10:46 am

    I have never used anything other than standard servos for subs of "normal" dimensions. (Up to about 6 feet.)

    Your point about friction is a good one. That is always an issue with subs. I prefer bellows over O ring seals for control linkages for that reason. Some people don't like bellows and I have had them split once or twice over several years usage. (Don't stretch them too much with servo travel.)

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    Post  tsenecal Thu May 27, 2021 5:46 am

    I am a fanatic about good servos.

    In the olden days (prior to 2000), an average standard size servo output about 40 oz/in of torque. Due to that, i personally feel any servo that produces more than that amount of torque will work fine in a submarine. even with a water tight seal, you will not be imposing more strain than what an airplane flying through the air at 100mph would be exerting against a servo.


    having said all that... here is my two cents on what i use and why

    I do not normally use standard size servos, since space is at a premium inside a wtc.

    I refuse to buy the cheap $3 servos for my subs.

    my go to servo for wtc's with room is the hitec hs225mg
    my go to servo for wtc's with constrained space is the hitec hs82mg

    the 225 is a mini servo, the 82 is a micro servo. both produce more torque than a classic standard size servo.

    as you may have noticed, both those servos are metal gear servos. there is no use using a "high torque" servo if all you will be doing with that excess torque is stripping servo gears.

    you might also notice neither of those is digital. submarines will not need the precision afforded by a digital servo, nor does the extra drain a digital servo can place on an electrical system help in a submarine. on average, an analog servo is also going to be cheaper than a digital (although the metal gear option will increase cost)

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    Post  salmon Fri May 28, 2021 4:59 pm

    Tim,
    That is good advice.
    I do use the $3 servos and have had good results, but on my newer submarines (like my Walrus) I use Hitec servos.
    There is a definite quality jump in how they perform and the output.
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