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Tom(ADMIN) Tue Aug 06, 2013 3:32 pm

Now that the new medication seems to be working, I decided to have a go at another Skipjack, I couldn't find a Moebius kit, so I bought the Revell version...same kit, different name.

This one will have a cylinder built by Nigel Edmonds, with my own design ballast system...a 12volt water pump filling and emptying an SHG rubber bag, mounted centrally in the cylinder.

First job as usual...prepare the hull sections.

Slots and holes now completed... I'll pay for it tomorrow, I expect, but at least they are all done. Time for a cold beer, methinks...

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salmon Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:00 pm

Any pictures? Not you drinking a beer, but of the sub?
Peace,
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tattooed Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:19 pm

the mans up and running again now that can only be a good thing

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Tom(ADMIN) Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:41 pm

Pictures tomorrow boys, camera is on charge.

Andy...it don't half feel good to be building a sub again, mate.

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Pictures for Tom and Andy..

Tom(ADMIN) Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:29 am

Here you go, boys...nothing exciting as yet, but you get the rough idea.

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The larger flood holes will be covered from the inside with alloy mesh to stop debris getting sucked in and maybe jamming the ballast pump.

Ballast system is to be a water pump filling/emptying an SHG rubber bag, this will be mounted dead centre in one of Nigel's cylinders. 12v gel cell mounted in the bows in the flood section.

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Tom(ADMIN) Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:50 am

I've managed to get the forward deck section cut this morning, a few nerve wracking moments, but it came out ok, thankfully. A bit more sanding and all will be ok. One of the worst parts of the build...only one chance to get it right.

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Tom(ADMIN) Thu Aug 08, 2013 1:44 pm

Oh golly gosh and bother, I said...just tried the fit between the (fixed) nose section and the removable top deck. It seems that my fingers weren't exactly cooperating when I made the cut earlier...I have a gap between them at the join.

What do you reckon, boys...will it show badly when it's sprayed, do I need to need some form of remedial action (if so, what?) or am I just being too fussy? I've seen many a boat with huge gaps between joins, so I'm inclined to leave it as it is and see what it looks like after a couple coats of spray silk black paint.

What do you guys reckon? Comments, criticisms, and advice gratefully received.

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Tom(ADMIN) Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:45 am

No comments, criticisms or advice?

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Tom(ADMIN) Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:55 am

Whilst waiting on bits to crack on with the internal set up, I thought I'd take a look at the sail...although it's just held together with tape at the moment, it fits perfectly, I'm well impressed.

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salmon Sat Aug 10, 2013 3:33 pm

Richard,
You are far more knowledgable than I. So, take my comments from that perspective.
Your cut at the bow is fine. Get the sub running, then go back and do the details and fixes that you feel need to be addressed.
I am thrilled to see you building again!
Peace,
Tom

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Tom(ADMIN) Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:27 pm

Well, thank you Tom...you've made an old man very happy!

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Tom(ADMIN) Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:45 am

Most strange...exactly the same kit, same scale, same size. But look at the difference in box sizes..the Revell one is massive, looks like the same box that the 1/72nd Corvette was packaged in.

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gingyer Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:07 am

Watching this with interest.
I have one to build also

Colin

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Tom(ADMIN) Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:26 am

They are very well moulded kits, Colin...nice and crisp with very little flash to trim off. I'm just waiting on parts now really, there's a few odd bits I can do whilst I wait, like removing all the parts from the sprues and cleaning up ready to go, and get the stern ready for the prop shaft and supports.

Have you started on yours yet?

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gingyer Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:29 am

Richard(Admin) wrote:They are very well moulded kits, Colin...nice and crisp with very little flash to trim off. I'm just waiting on parts now really, there's a few odd bits I can do whilst I wait, like removing all the parts from the sprues and cleaning up ready to go, and get the stern ready for the prop shaft and supports.

Have you started on yours yet?

No I am still building my OTW S class plus many other boats to finish

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Tom(ADMIN) Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:37 am

gingyer wrote:

Richard(Admin) wrote:They are very well moulded kits, Colin...nice and crisp with very little flash to trim off. I'm just waiting on parts now really, there's a few odd bits I can do whilst I wait, like removing all the parts from the sprues and cleaning up ready to go, and get the stern ready for the prop shaft and supports.

Have you started on yours yet?

No I am still building my OTW S class plus many other boats to finish

Ah...the old "too many boats, not enough time" syndrome..I knew it well once upon a time!

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salmon Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:16 pm

Richard,

I am building the Skipjack right now.

Moebius sold (possibly licensed, but pretty sure it was sold) the Skipjack kit to Revell.
Peace,
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Tom(ADMIN) Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:11 pm

I heard that Moebius sold the rights to manufacture the kit to Revell, lock, stock and barrel. Strange, there must have been a fair amount of money involved.

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merriman Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:41 am

Richard(Admin) wrote:I heard that Moebius sold the rights to manufacture the kit to Revell, lock, stock and barrel. Strange, there must have been a fair amount of money involved.

Nope. Moebius simply sold a bunch of bagged kits to Revell of Germany. A straight-forward sale of kits from one packager to another.

David

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salmon Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:19 am

merriman wrote:

Richard(Admin) wrote:I heard that Moebius sold the rights to manufacture the kit to Revell, lock, stock and barrel. Strange, there must have been a fair amount of money involved.

Nope. Moebius simply sold a bunch of bagged kits to Revell of Germany. A straight-forward sale of kits from one packager to another.

David

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Tom(ADMIN) Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:24 am

Tom, get some pictures up on here of your Skipjack build.

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Tom(ADMIN) Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:02 am

The main power battery arrived this morning, so now I've something to do...make up a styrene tray to retain the battery, and knock up a wiring loom.

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Tom(ADMIN) Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:11 pm

Battery tray made..

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And in position in the hull..

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And the battery fits nicely..

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timgarrod Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:10 pm

like the idea for the battery holder, better than my Velcro strap. might have to nick the idea LOL

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Tom(ADMIN) Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:18 pm

There will be a charge, of course...

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