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Tom(ADMIN) Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:49 am

Ok boys, I can now reveal what's going on here:

With grateful thanks to Andy Lawrence, I now have a 1/72nd scale Moebius Skipjack kit. Andy hunted high and low for one, found one and after a bit of haggling, I bought it.

And again, with grateful thanks to Ron P, he has designed and is building a very special twin piston tank module for the boat. One tank forward, one tank aft, both individually controlled by two electronic controllers. The module will also have the last of Ron's SALCONs installed to control the rear planes, the front planes will be seperately controlled by a mini servo in it's own little watertight chamber.

The Skipjack is an injection moulded plastic kit, 40" x 5", and looks to be a superb kit, and quite easy to convert to r/c.

For those of you who don't know what a SALCON is...Submarine Automatic Level Controller. Pictures below show what's what.

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Moebius Skipjack Skipja10

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Image above shows what a SALCON looks like.

This is the story so far...more to follow, boys. Stay tuned...

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Tom(ADMIN) Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:30 am

Here's a 3D video of the module...enjoy

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Giovanni LiCalsi Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:03 pm

Hi Richard,
Congratulations on the new acquisition !
That is a very nice model and lots of models submariners will be sailing them, soon.
That is an interesting looking WTC module. Can you post more images of it?
The YouTube link was in error when I tried to look at it.
Also wanted to mention that HiTec now has a water-proof servo. I have seen these used on the www.rcboot.de forum with success.
This build should liven up the forum and stimulate more to build this model.
Here is an interesting video :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goS-oszbjcg&sns=em

Good luck,
Giovanni

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Tom(ADMIN) Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:45 pm

Try the link again, Giovanni, it works fine for me.

Once Ron sends me some images of the module, I'll post them up on here.

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Tom(ADMIN) Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:12 am

Latest updates on the Skipjack...according to the tracking number sent to me by the chap I bought it from, the kit is somewhere across the Atlantic at this minute. I'm watching every aircraft that flies over my home...

The custom designed and built module is well under construction now, I've posted a couple of pictures of progress so far.

Moebius Skipjack Ron_s_10

Moebius Skipjack Ron_s_10

This picture shows the exact same module fitted into Ron's Alpha, it gives a good general impression of how it's built.

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Moebius Skipjack 13579910

This picture shows the stern section of the equipment tray under construction.

My poor flexible friend has just been seriously flexed at Sussex Model Centre, a Fusion FS-02 electronic fail safe, Mtroniks Viper 15 esc, and three Etronix ES028 digital standard size servos are on the way. Overkill...well, maybe, but seeing as how this will probably be the last boat I'll build, I wanted to install items that would last.

Both piston tanks are wired in unision, and controlled by the tried and tested 'two microswitches on a servo' method, it worked perfectly well in my Patrick Henry, so I've decided to stick with it for this boat. (I can hear Nigel and John Robinson crying from here...sorry guys, but I'm a firm believer in the old adage K.I.S.S. (keep it simple, stupid). )

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Moebius Skipjack Fusion10

Moebius Skipjack Tiomar10

Moebius Skipjack Etroni10

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Deep Diver (Fred) Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:26 pm

have one of Ron's salcon's in the back of the workshop in the scrap bin

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Tom(ADMIN) Sun Nov 04, 2012 7:21 pm

Send it to me, Fred...

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Tom(ADMIN) Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:39 am

A large parcel has just this minute arrived at Huggett Hall...no extra charges at all, no damage anywhere. I'm like a kid at Christmas...

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Moebius Skipjack Dsc00410

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tattooed Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:10 pm

you lucky bugger so i take it there will be lots of sleepless nights , because i bet when you start this you wont be able to put her down

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Tom(ADMIN) Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:56 pm

I get sleepless nights all the time mate! There's not a lot to the actual kit build really, once the hull halves are glued together it's really just detailing it. There's not that many flood holes to cut out, which is nice, and there's a PE set for the holes in the upper deck, which is even better.

I think the hardest part of the top deck will be to file out the exhaust ports in that long extension behind the sail, so I've treated my self to a new set of mini files for that little job.

If all goes well and the swelling in my hands has gone down, I'll make a start tomorrow on the flood holes in the lower hull, I can get them drilled out for filing.

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

Giovanni LiCalsi Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:30 pm

Richard,
Your Skipjack build will be very interesting to follow.
I'm very excited about seeing photos of the build.
I'm planning to build a 1/48th scale all metal model. I will be starting the project next spring.
I am collecting the copper sheets now.

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Re: Moebius Skipjack

salmon Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:31 pm

Best of luck to you Richard, take your time and post many pictures so we can enjoy along with you!
you lucky, lucky man.
(ps if you have one too many salcons, I would love to get one to try out)

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Tom(ADMIN) Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:41 am

Just an overview of what's in the box before I make a start...

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Moebius Skipjack Dsc00411

The hull sections.

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Moebius Skipjack Dsc00412

Small fittings and the instruction sheet

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Moebius Skipjack Dsc00413

The bag containing clear items and the etched gratings.

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Moebius Skipjack Dsc00414

And finally the electronic parts which arrived this morning from Sussex Model Centre...3 servos, Mtroniks esc and the tiny Etronix fail safe unit. This will be hooked up to the ballast tank control switches, so in the event of a problem, the servo will activate the controller and blow ballast.

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Tom(ADMIN) Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:35 am

Just been looking at the Skipjack...I'm surprised at how big the thing is. 42" x 4" plus whatever the propellor adds when it's fitted. Pictures show the basic hull laid alongside my Neptune for comparision.

Further comparision: my Engel Lafayette measured 51" x 4" at 1/100th scale. The Skipjack is 1/72nd scale.

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Moebius Skipjack Dsc00415

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profesorul Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:12 pm

[quote="salmon"]Best of luck to you Richard, take your time and post many pictures so we can enjoy along with you!
you lucky, lucky man.
Subscribe to what @salmon said!.

Please take Your time and make as many pictures as you can and make an activity report!!!.

MARIUS.

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Tom(ADMIN) Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:59 pm

Fear not Marius, I will be posting a full build log once I get started on the kit, probably next week if all goes well.

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tattooed Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:53 pm

get started next week who you kidding mate bet you've done most of it allready and your sat there with your feet up and a scotch in your hand lol

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Tom(ADMIN) Sat Nov 10, 2012 6:20 pm

Honest mate, not touched it yet, had to wait for all the remaining bits to turn up. The last bits arrived this morning, so Monday I'll be making a start on it. MotoGP tomorrow, plus I have a gorgeous young lady coming round to see me, so Monday it will be.

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Tom(ADMIN) Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:46 am

Having given the matter some serious thought, and going from past experience with the Dragonfish, this is how I've decided to split the hull on the Skipjack.

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Moebius Skipjack Hull_c10

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tattooed Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:24 pm

is that all you've done rich god you are taking this build easy come on pull your finger out

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Giovanni LiCalsi Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:30 pm

Rich,
Don't be afraid to cut it up ! LOL !

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Tom(ADMIN) Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:08 pm

I've got all the bits needed, got my new mini drill, new files...but my hands are so badly swollen I can't hold anything, my fingers are all bent and twisted, so until everything gets back to normal, I can't do a thing.

I can't even use my laptop properly, I have to use my iPad to do anything online. It's a real pain in the ass, hopefully it won't last much longer.

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Giovanni LiCalsi Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:41 pm

Hope you get well, soon.
Myself, at 62, has those kind of days, too.
Here in San Francisco we use iPads and medical cannabis to cope with life.
I'm on my iPad, now.
Kind regards,
Giovanni

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Tom(ADMIN) Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:19 am

This is what one of my hands looks like...looks like a great big cane toad on the end of my arm sometimes.

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Moebius Skipjack Photo_10

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Tom(ADMIN) Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:06 pm

It begins.

The first ten flood holes opened up and brass rims fitted.

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Moebius Skipjack Photo110

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