The Association of Model Submariners.

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

* THE FORUM FOR ALL THOSE INTERESTED IN BUILDING AND OPERATING MODEL SUBMARINES *



Join the AMS - Registered Forum users can become members of the AMS and it's free ...... To join send an email with your name , address and phone number to amstreasure@googlemail.com


For a guide to past events see the "Shows and Events" section.

Who is online?

In total there is 1 user online :: 1 Registered, 0 Hidden and 0 Guests :: 1 Bot

Deep Diver (Fred)


Most users ever online was 180 on Tue 05 Nov 2019, 06:03

Latest topics

» Radio ideas -27Mhz
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptyMon 17 Jan 2022, 13:35 by geofrancis

» Radio RSSI depth controller
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptySat 15 Jan 2022, 11:30 by geofrancis

» Mast mounted water level sensor.
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptySat 15 Jan 2022, 01:52 by geofrancis

» Newcomer to the forum?
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptyMon 10 Jan 2022, 18:45 by Tom(ADMIN)

» Type II U-boat
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptyWed 05 Jan 2022, 03:17 by tsenecal

» Lipo cut off circuit - Practical Electronics magazine - November 2021
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptyTue 21 Dec 2021, 15:40 by tsenecal

» bladder systems
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptyTue 21 Dec 2021, 15:35 by tsenecal

» Looking for drawings and instructions for Hegi U-25 Kit
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptySat 18 Dec 2021, 00:44 by Telusboats

» Nautilus II by Robert Fulton
Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 EmptyThu 16 Dec 2021, 14:20 by david f

Statistics

Our users have posted a total of 11579 messages in 1900 subjects

We have 941 registered users

The newest registered user is PaulBrown

+8
Ynotkayak
salmon
B737
Giovanni LiCalsi
nigele(ADMIN)2
Deep Diver (Fred)
Tom(ADMIN)
rgj
12 posters

    Engel U177 IX D2

    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty U177

    Post  B737 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 17:11

    ATB: roger, i did not know that english abbreviation.
    Any progress? No questions??
    Martin
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Wed 15 Feb 2012, 18:24

    Hi

    Conning tower decking is in place, all holes drilled, Railings & stanchions fitted today. Periscopes & guns & hatches tomorrow.

    I will get some pictures taken then! Also have time to reflect on pitfalls.

    ATB
    ROb

    avatar
    Tom(ADMIN)
    AMS Forum Owner


    Posts : 3012
    Join date : 2010-11-05
    Age : 62
    Location : Nevada, USA

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Wed 15 Feb 2012, 19:03

    Good man Rob...cracking on nicely. Well done, that man...
    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty U177

    Post  B737 Wed 15 Feb 2012, 19:12

    You might give it some thoughts whether you attach the conning tower permanently or detachable to the upper deck.......
    ATB
    Martin
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Thu 16 Feb 2012, 09:47

    Hi

    I had thought of that & was going to make it attached to the hull.

    ATB
    Rob
    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty u177

    Post  B737 Thu 16 Feb 2012, 14:19

    As you please but bear in mind that the periscoops are very vulnerable during transport when you are going to sail the boat.
    I have my periscoops detachable from the coning tower and the tower detachable from the upper deck.
    also handy for possible repairs and (possible) alterations in a later stadium
    Cheers,
    Martin
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Thu 16 Feb 2012, 19:23

    Well - guns are on stanchions in & periscopes fitted. Just needs a coat of paint now.

    It is suggested the periscopes are soldered to brass tubing but the metal they are made of has a relatively low melting point so this need to be done with great care. . In the end I epoxied mine in place I did not want to risk loosing any more length!

    ATB
    Rob
    avatar
    Tom(ADMIN)
    AMS Forum Owner


    Posts : 3012
    Join date : 2010-11-05
    Age : 62
    Location : Nevada, USA

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Thu 16 Feb 2012, 21:56

    Sounds like you're doing good, Rob...keep it going.
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Thu 23 Feb 2012, 18:36

    https://servimg.com/view/17255696/6]Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 00310

    https://servimg.com/view/17255696/7]Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 00610

    just started on hull holes- burble

    Excuse the mess on desk

    rob

    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty u177

    Post  B737 Thu 23 Feb 2012, 22:33

    that looks very good! and done in a very short time!
    keep up the good work
    Martin
    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty u177

    Post  B737 Thu 01 Mar 2012, 18:21

    How many hull holes to go Rob??
    ATB,
    Martin
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Thu 01 Mar 2012, 19:48

    Hi Martin

    About 40 or so. A few to tidy up but so far so good, no huge disasters. I have photos & will upload.

    For a change I drilled the WTC lid but cannot face the middle deck holes - the metal in this seems very solid. Also my bench drill plate is too small to take the deck so need to make a bigger plate to bolt to the plate.

    The good news is I am enjoying it - just hoover up the dust in the conservatory & my wife is happy.

    Watch this space.

    ATB
    ROb
    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty u177

    Post  B737 Thu 01 Mar 2012, 21:08

    are you using "metal cutting lubricant" when drilling??
    Martin
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Thu 01 Mar 2012, 21:48

    Hi

    Not for the aluminium plate - I used a titanium coated drill - did not even get warm. I did not attempt to drill the middle deck. Lubricant lined up for middle deck, this is a different metal judging from the weight.

    Next job is to bolt a wooden plate onto the plate of my bench drill which is too small, this will make things easier

    ATB
    ROb
    avatar
    Tom(ADMIN)
    AMS Forum Owner


    Posts : 3012
    Join date : 2010-11-05
    Age : 62
    Location : Nevada, USA

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Thu 01 Mar 2012, 22:01

    Slots and holes...holes and slots...I remember it so well. Drove me past the point of insanity...
    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty u177

    Post  B737 Thu 01 Mar 2012, 22:10

    Roger roger, alu no problem of course. with such a drill AND the lubricant you will easely drill the holes in the middledeck (after the conversion of your bench drill).
    regarding the holes do you choose for option 1 or 2 in the building instructions?
    martin
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Thu 01 Mar 2012, 22:19

    Hi

    I am going for the threaded bolts- looking forward to the blisters :-).

    I live very close to Fast Gaskets, who I have been in touch with. Once I can drive again I will pop there & they can manufacture a neoprene gasket which I believe is better than the seal supplied- very helpful & interested on the phone.

    Link to them is:

    http://www.fastgaskets.co.uk/2.html

    ATB
    rob
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Mon 05 Mar 2012, 13:48

    Sit rep - no blisters!!!

    The hole tapping went smoothly, one broken drill.

    All vent holes finished.

    I am working on WTC/ middle deck/ rear bulkhead now

    I must say I am enjoying this project - new set of skills being developd

    Photos to follow.

    ATB
    Rob


    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty u177

    Post  B737 Mon 05 Mar 2012, 17:11

    So far so good!
    Standing by for the photo's.
    Martin.
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Tue 06 Mar 2012, 14:57

    https://servimg.com/view/17255696/10]Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 00210


    Some holes done & some to do

    Rob

    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:00

    And the middle deck in place with spacer.

    https://servimg.com/view/17255696/11]Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 00410
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:02

    Just started on prop shaftes & rudders & rear planes. No particular problems so far - take it slow - measure 3 times double check & then fix in place

    Rob
    avatar
    Tom(ADMIN)
    AMS Forum Owner


    Posts : 3012
    Join date : 2010-11-05
    Age : 62
    Location : Nevada, USA

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:25

    Very nice neat holes Rob...if I remember correctly there were 534 of them in U-441.
    avatar
    rgj
    Guest


    Posts : 56
    Join date : 2012-01-08

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj Tue 06 Mar 2012, 15:35

    Thanks Richard.

    I pre drill with Dremmel, then mark top & bottom with masking tape & then hand finish. Oddly diamond file better on upper hull & standard file on lower.

    I did not count how many but not more than 200.

    Just giving some thought to storage bins on upper deck which are outboard- the plans say draw them in pen - not happy with this idea.

    ATB
    Rob
    avatar
    B737
    Guest


    Posts : 38
    Join date : 2012-01-18
    Age : 74
    Location : The Netherlands

    Engel U177 IX D2 - Page 2 Empty u177

    Post  B737 Tue 06 Mar 2012, 17:20

    Thanks Rob!
    Getting along nicely.
    Martin

      Current date/time is Thu 20 Jan 2022, 05:15