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    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:15 pm

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    When gel coat has fully cured cut a piece of tissue using the same patten used to make the mould and lay in the mould,stipple resin on top of it making sure that the edges along the taped face stand up in the air,allow the tissue to fully dry before going any further,repeat this on the second half hull.
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    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:23 pm

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    This is how it should look with the tissue applied,the small centre mould is a rubbing strip for the boat just in case research shows that the original boat was fitted with them.

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    When the tissue is fully dry add two layers of 300gsm matt cut from the patten,these are added wet on wet,this means that the matt is resin coated before being applied to the mould,again insure that the matt stand up at the edges as shown.
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    Another view of both half hulls in the mould.
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    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:42 pm

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    When the matt has fully cured, take a sharp stanley knife and run it down the mould face along the joint edges, don't try to cut it in one go, keep running the knife down the edge gently until the excess is removed. Ensure that the knife runs along the tape so as not to damage mould face.
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    Another view with excess removed.
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    Now remove both half hulls from the moulds.
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    Clean up hull edges with a rough file,insure that the long edges that join together have the burr removed but no more,when this is done wash the moulds and the half hulls and fully dry.
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    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:07 pm

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    Tape round the front and rear edges of the mould with masking tape as shown,cut two lengths of 1 inch alloy foil tape the full length of the hull plus an inch.

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    Tape the two half hulls together at the front and rear insuring they line up correctly,as shown.
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    Now join along the whole length of the hull using the alloy tape,removing the masking tape at the front and rear of the hull as you go,ensure that the alloy tape is pushed down on to the hull firmly and flat.
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    Place hull back in the mould insuring that it is the correct way up.
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    Place the other half of the mould in place and bolt them together.
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    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:31 pm

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    Looking down the inside of the hull showing the lines to be joined.
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    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:35 pm

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    Cut four strips of 300 matt 1 inch wide and 2 inches longer than the mould,it pays to taper the end that goes in the small end of the hull as shown.
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    Extended brush I use for joining the hull halves.
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    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:49 pm

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    Wet the joint in the hull with resin and the apply the joining strips dry, one at a time stipple them into place start at the large end with the strip in a u shape and slowly unroll it down the inside the hull making sure that it remains on the centre line of the joint,this is very fiddley.
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    When fully cured remove from mould and remove tape and trim up and thats it, one half of the hull done,do the same again for the second half of the hull,handy that its the same both end's.
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    A few views of the hull with the second half done.
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    PS...YES DAVID, THIS IS YOUR ONE!!


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    Awesome work, boss...a master at his craft.

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