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      Post  Giovanni LiCalsi Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:09 pm

      Hi Nigel,
      Thank you for your help.
      I work in copper and brass and can use a torch.
      The hull dimensions will be 1/8th scale 52-1/2" length X 6" diameter.
      I plan to use copper sheets for the mid section. I may use copper tube for the conical sections and swedge them into a taper. I can also metal spin annealed copper blanks on my lathe . I can apply brass rivets.
      The last 3" of the conical hull can be machined out of solid brass stock. This will allow me to press fit a bearing for the prop shaft.
      I plan to use a bajonet on the rear conical section to mate up with the mid hull section with the WTC fixed to the rear conical section of the hull.
      Any ideas from you would be helpful.
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      Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:26 pm

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      This is how I do it from flat plate,remember you need two of these for each cone because of the overlap,I have used the your figures,note the allowance for overlap at each edge.
      regards Nigel.
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      Post  Giovanni LiCalsi Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:15 am

      Thank you!
      You have made it easy.
      Do you have the full-scale plate lap to lap measurements?
      You see so many models with butt joints.
      The original Union Navy drawings show lap joints.
      Too bad the US military sent the Pioneer out for scrap in 1868!
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      Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:42 pm

      Hi Giovanni,
      the only plans I have are the ones I posted at the begining of the build log,I worked out the plate width from the line drawing as best I could,if you download the drawing in paint you can enlarge it and get a fair Idea of the size of the plates assuming that the drawing is correct,which personally I doubt but it seems to be all that is available for the pioneer.
      regards Nigel.
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      Post  Giovanni LiCalsi Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:49 pm

      Thank you, Nigel
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      Post  profesorul Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:11 pm

      HI @nigele ,
      What happend to the sub?.....any news?....did You succed to finish him?.
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      Post  Giovanni LiCalsi Fri Nov 22, 2013 4:48 pm

      It would be nice to see it sail.
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      Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:44 pm

      Hi,
      try: PICTURES FROM SHOWS,
            ALFOLD 10TH JUNE 2012,
            TIN TOP UCLASS.
      there's pictures and a short video of her first outing.
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      Post  Giovanni LiCalsi Fri Nov 22, 2013 6:00 pm

      Do you have a photo of the interior components?

      Here is the video link.

      https://youtu.be/Ik9yrep_cMY
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      Post  profesorul Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:49 pm

      Giovanni wrote:Do you have a photo of the interior components?
      Do You?.... and some informations about it wheel be great.

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      Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 Sat Nov 23, 2013 7:31 pm

      Sorry Guy's,
      I don't at the mow,and the boat is on loan to a local museum until just after christmas when I get it back I will do some.
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      Post  david f Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:04 pm

      My latest refit of Nigel's original design and build:
      (Now with a larger piston tank, Norbert Bruggen bayonet ring, 3d printed polyurethane deck fittings  and nose-cone (flexible so kind to surface boats!) and a re-spray!)

      Video here:

      https://youtu.be/JsmKTdV7eMc

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