(I've copied our emails for information.)
TO CORRELATE SONAR IMAGES OF BRITISH SUBMARINES LOCATED IN LIBYA AND TUNISIA , I WOULD NEED PLANS OF CLASS S , T , U BOATS.
I AM PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN PLAN VIEW AND SIDE VIEW OF
S CLASS P222
T CLASS TIGRIS and TALISMAN
U CLASS USURPER and UTMOST
IS THERE ANY CHANCE YOU WOULD HAVE THOSE OR THAT YOU WOULD SUGGEST ANOTHER SOURCE ?
WITH THANKS AND BEST REGARDS
JEAN-PIERRE MISSON BRUSSELS
The best, easily available and reasonably priced plans are probably these "John Lambert" plans available here:
These are good for the U and T class.
The S class is more of a problem but I have attached some photos from a book taken with my mobile!
The absolutely best place to get this information would be the RN Submarine Museum, Gosport and the National Maritime Museum, Greenwich but I hope I've helped.
Can I make reference to your search on our Forum? People are often interested and helpful.
Thank you very much for coming to my rescue ...
I am looking for drawings 1:50 scale , of British S , T , U Class Submarines ...
...Drawings that show all the particulars in Plan View (Deck and Bridge) and Side View.
This is to compare to the sonar images I have obtained from some wrecks (S , T , U Class) .
I need no Sectional View(s) : I am only after "outside" aspects.
The small drawings that appear on the list you have kindly forwarded to me would not help : they are useful
to modelists but unfortunately not for my search.
For the three Italian submarines I have sonar located , I have obtained excellent 1:50 scale drawings from two
Modelists Associations , both in Bologna , Italy : G.C.N. (Gruppo Cultura Navale) and A.N.B. (Associazione
Navimodellisti Bologna). The submarines are all of the WWII era.
A complete set of drawings costs between 50 and 70 €.
I wonder why it is so difficult to find 1:50 drawings for the British Submarines of that same period ?
I would love getting this Question posted on your Forum !
After I have pre-identified a wreck as being British or Italian (from the overall look and very often from the
short after casing on most British subs) , then the Class (mainly from the overall length) and then further
limiting the list of candidates (from books and data available on the Net) I arrive at a "Tentative Name".
The tentative names I now have to ascertain are : USURPER UTMOST P222 TIGRIS TALISMAN.
All five wrecks lie off Tabarka , Tunisia , in what must have been a naval mine barrage 1942-1943.
The depth is 65 - 80 m , a little too deep for recreational diving and someone nearing ...79.
The Defence Attaché , British Embassy Tunis , has been informed and there will probably be a full
investigation by some Navy divers (British or Tunisian or italian) sometime in the future.
My aim is to try and confirm the (tentative) Names with additional analysis of the sonar images :
correlating what I see on them to what I see on vintage pictures and drawings.
I have a fair amount of vintage pictures for the candidates but no picture will ever match a 1:50 drawing.
Hence my quest ...
With thanks and kind regards