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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:43 pm

    Having been caught red handed by my doc with my X craft in hands (my carer let him in the door just as I was preparing to drill and file another flood slot...he was not best pleased with me, to say the least) I'm now relegated back to small plastic boats (for the time being, anyway...)

    I've restarted the build of JellyBean Mk4, this time with Lipo batteries and all the modern technology I can muster. The radio box is well under construction, so whilst I'm waiting for a couple of parts to arrive to complete it, I've screwed the hull and deck sections together, made a start on cutting out the access hatch, and drilled out the flood holes.

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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Tue Nov 26, 2013 10:42 am

    As a change from drilling holes, I've made a start on the deck. It's now cut out, flood holes drilled, and I'm playing about with a bit of detailing. How about the crew access hatch...bit on the posh side really, but two of them for less than £6 has to be a bargain in my book.

    Good old Cornwall Model Boats...thanks to Malcolm for finding these for me.

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    I'm thinking of maybe hiding the deck securing screw under the hatch?
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:23 pm

    And a little more done (whilst trying to avoid an annoyed carer with a painful toe...)

    Hatch access opened up, periscope fitted (Do deep sea research subs have periscopes, I wonder? Mine has anyway...) and a 10mm HiViz UltraBrite red flashing beacon. Just a dry run, I'll refit everything properly when the boat has been painted.

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    Post  acrowot (Geof) Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:47 pm

    Hi Richard

    This model takes me back a long way
    A friend of mine bought one at Sandown model show years ago.
    he painted it bright orange so he could see it the only problem was I was the last person to see it as I was snorkelling in the gravel pit with it it shot past like bat out of hell and was never seen again the good old servo and micro switch and no fail safe ha ha
    Mind you it was powered by a 13 turn racing buggy motor and a 7.2 volt pack.
    So after the loss of his second submarine he has called it a day mind you we did not know what we were doing and the internet was not about so all lessons were learnt from marine modelling
    Keep up the good work look forward to hearing how see comes along

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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:48 pm

    Oh, that brings back memories, Geoff...my first JellyBean was lost with all hands in a local river, never did find it despite hiring the local sub aqua club.

    The second one developed a leak, and no matter what I did, I could not cure it, so eventually I scrapped it.

    Number three was sold half way through building it when I became ill, that was a silly move really, but at the time it seemed a good idea.

    Now onto number four....this one is coming along nicely so far, so fingers crossed it continues that way. I like these little things, and with my present problems, they are ideal for me to move about.

    Onwards and upwards...!
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:43 pm

    Today's job was to tackle the steering nozzle...

    This is what's shown on the plan:

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    I sort of followed the drawing, but I made mine adjustable for depth via the two collars on the shaft, side to side movement, and for tightness on the nozzle. And I'm pleased to say, it all works as I wanted it to...I have a good 45 degrees of movement on the nozzle each side, which should be more than enough to turn the boat in practically it's own length.

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    Tomorrow I'll make up the prop shaft and make a start on building the dive planes.
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:02 pm

    Quite a productive day today, hands and fingers working well so far...

    Got the dive planes made up ready to install and also I've also trimmed and filed the edges of the hull to shape, and sanded them smooth. The prop shaft just needs cutting to size once the radio box is installed, a job for tomorrow.

    The dive planes are from the Skipjack kit...because David M sent me the resin ones in the fittings kit, I didn't use the kit ones, they've proved ideal for the JellyBean, saved me a lot of work having to make the things.

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    Post  acrowot (Geof) Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:34 pm

    (Quite a productive day) i wish i could build at your speed short of time these days ha ha

    looking good were did you get your WTC box from its just the right size

    hope those fingers and hands can keep on going

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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Thu Nov 28, 2013 3:51 pm

    The radio box came from Dave Marles at Prestwich Models, it's one of a range he does for race boats. I did buy the new version to start with, but it was too big, so I ended up with this one, the original versíon. The third one comes in kit form, and is made up from pre cut pieces of ply. Mine is fibreglass, the new version is made of a plastic material.
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Thu Nov 28, 2013 7:13 pm

    acrowot (Geof) wrote:(Quite a productive day) i wish i could build at your speed short of time these days ha ha
    Don't forget I'm retired now, Geoff...I've got all the time in the world to build subs!


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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:37 am

    Steering nozzle and dive plane linkages made and hooked up...bit tight under the deck, but it all works perfectly.

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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Fri Nov 29, 2013 5:59 pm

    I don't want to talk about it...
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:41 am

    Richard(Admin) wrote:I don't want to talk about it...

    I've finished sulking, given the problem an awful lot of thought, and I think I may have averted the crisis. The next couple of hours are going to be critical...as they say in all the best places "watch this space".
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    Post  tattooed Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:24 pm

    come on rich we're all watching mate
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sat Nov 30, 2013 4:39 pm

    Well, I cured one problem, and went straight into another! I couldn't get a straight run on the servo linkages, so I managed to cure that by rerouting the rods...sorted, or so I thought. Then I found that the clear access lid fouled the servo rods, so
    I removed some of the material on the lip...sorted, or so I thought. Now the bolts are so close to the lip, I can see that they will soon just pull right through...so, I have to make a whole new lip, refit the bolts, and I've still to sort the servo rods out.

    I'm taking up knitting...
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sun Dec 01, 2013 10:01 am

    Richard(Admin) wrote:Well, I cured one problem, and went straight into another! I couldn't get a straight run on the servo linkages, so I managed to cure that by rerouting the rods...sorted, or so I thought. Then I found that the clear access lid fouled the servo rods, so
    I removed some of the material on the lip...sorted, or so I thought. Now the bolts are so close to the lip, I can see that they will soon just pull right through...so, I have to make a whole new lip, refit the bolts, and I've still to sort the servo rods out.

    I'm taking up knitting...
    I do not believe this...after all the recent problems and my attempts at rectifying them, I've just discovered the problem. I'd lined the radio box floor with a sheet of styrene to give me a nice smooth surface to attach the radio gear on to, but I hadn't glued it down yet. I've just been looking at what to do next to sort these problems out, and I needed my small jeweller's screwdriver...could I find it? Could I hell as like. Having turned the bench upside down looking for it, I moved the radio box...and it rattled. (you know what's coming, don't you?....) I lifted the styrene floor, and underneath was my screwdriver...that had raised the floor by enough to cause all the problems. A lot of swearing, two cigarettes and a coffee later, I'm now in the process of making a new lid for the box (after ruining the old one trying to fix a problem that didn't exist) and that should put me back on track.

    And the moral of the story? Make sure you put your tools on the bench, and not leave them where they can cause problems!

    (Andy...you have my permission to laugh!)
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:25 am

    And the problem solved...new top and new clear lid made up for the radio box, just need to decide whether to use O ring cord or rubber sheet for the watertight seal, then I can cut the bolts down to size.

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    Post  salmon Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:15 pm

    Very sharp looking! That wtc is coming along nicely Richard.


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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:56 pm

    Well, thank you kindly Tom...much appreciated. It's getting there now, next up is to secure the box into the hull and get the prop shaft cut down and installed. That's tomorrow's agenda...
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:03 am

    An interesting exercise in bending brass wire...drove me mad!

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    But it fits...I'm happy.

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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:54 am

    Deck detailing finished...the hatch does open and covers the securing mount. The LED is a red flashing 10mm HiViz, UltraBrite and runs in conjunction with two White flood LED's at the lower bows of the boat, they are the next to be fitted...all three run off a separate 4.8v rx battery pack.

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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:24 pm

    Just a quick pic of the flashing beacon in operation.

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    Post  tattooed Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:07 pm

    very good rich and i must say the pink glow just adds to it
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    Post  Tom(ADMIN) Sun Jan 12, 2014 9:31 pm

    Pink, my ass!
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    Post  salmon Mon Jan 13, 2014 5:59 am

    Richard(Admin) wrote:Pink, my ass!
    That is a bit cheeky.


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