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    British O,E and L class drawings

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    Post  david f Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:32 pm

    Kindly donated by David W for AMS members. These are RN subs of the 1920's.
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    Post  Marcus Silva Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:03 pm

    david f wrote:Kindly donated by David W for AMS members. These are RN subs of the 1920's.

    Please, where the files?

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    Post  david f Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:43 am

    They aren't any files. They are paper drawings.

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    Post  david f Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:03 pm

    We are very pleased to post photos of these drawings made by Norman Ough and provided by the late Dave Wright.

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    Post  TXGR Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:36 pm

    I looked at the photos of the plans. They look quite good. Is there a way to purchase scanned or full-size paper copies?

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    Post  david f Sat Jul 15, 2017 9:43 am

    Hi Brian,

    No, we don't have any plans to put paper copies on sale. That is really the (very sadly missed) territory of John Lambert. (His plans don't seem to be available now.)

    We have talked about getting them scanned though. I'm not quite sure about the cost and how to go about it.

    Are the photographed plans OK for you at the moment?

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    British O,E and L class drawings Empty Availability of Lambert plans, seeking Ough plans

    Post  TXGR Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:00 am

    David:

    I was able to find two places in the UK that sell paper plans by Lambert:
    - Cornwall Model Boats Ltd
      http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/mmi_lambert.html

    - Model Dockyard
      http://www.model-dockyard.com/acatalog/John_Lambert_Warship_PLans.html

    Unfortunately, they do not offer the O class (HMS Odin) plans (or E class or L class). I wrote to them, but both stores said they were unavailable at this time.

    The plans on the Association of Model Submariners website indicate they are from Norman Ough, not John Lambert.

    I am not sure about in the UK, but in the US we have places called FedEx Office (formerly Kinko's) with oversized, high resolution scanners. The cost is usually minimal (less than $20?) and then the plans can be distributed electronically with the recipient responsible for paying to have the plans printed full-size on a plotter. If you want more control, you can have the scanning/printing service print copies as you sell them, on demand.

    The photos are informative, but with between folds and distortions, I can't work off of them for building a frame.

    Model Dockyard suggested I contact the (UK) National Maritime Museum (National Museums Greenwich). They do offer scanning/prints of ship plans for £70 each in a jpeg format. I imagine, in most cases, they would be the "general plans" used by engineering officers for maintenance, repairs, etc. Most I have seen are not suitable for building because there are no cross-sections or bulkhead views to form the hull shape. Many plans for US ships (boats, and subs) are available online for free from https://maritime.org/doc/plans/

    Casewell Plating also offers some free downloads of plans in PDF formats for the O class, R class, and V class Royal Navy Submarines.
    - https://support.caswellplating.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/271/40/hms-olympus-odin-class
    - https://support.caswellplating.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/263/40/hms-r-class-submarines-wwi
    - https://support.caswellplating.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/349/40/british-v-class-wwii-versions

    Again, upon review, these are general plans intended for maintenance and lack the bulkhead views needed to shape the hull. Some of the scans are very high resolution and suitable for printing in large format on a plotter. However, without the hull shape cross-sections, they are of limited use for modeling. I suspect these are the same or similar to the plans sold by the (UK) National Maritime Museum for £70 each.

    Finally, I found some crude plans (mostly scans of painting charts from plastic model kits) at https://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/ships/

    The best plans are the 1955 set from Norman Ough. All the cross sections are included along with proper station and scale marks.

    In my case, there is no rush at all. I would like copies of a the O Plans, and am willing to pay for them, but I won't be starting a project for several months. If you do work something out on scanning them, please let me know.

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