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    Engel U177 IX D2

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    Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:11 pm

    Good Evening

    As you can see I am new to the forum

    Having built a range of surface model boats over the years I have always yearned for a submarine. I have now taken the bold step of ordering an Engel U177 IX D2 after much research on manufacturers & model type. It looks a lovely model when complete.

    Having explored this forum I am now getting mild- moderate anxiety that I have bitten off too much for my first project. I do not have an engineering background but have a range of bench & model tools, patience & an inquisitive mind & an element of obsessionalism if needs be.

    Also I can find relatively few references to the model compared to others- is there any particular reason?

    When the kit arrives & the build starts I will try & post pics.

    Any advice (& reassurance) would be appreciated

    Best wishes
    Rob Jones

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:09 pm

    Hi Rob, and welcome to the forum.

    I guess the reason that a lot of people avoid the Engel boats is the expense of them...that one you have bought is a superb boat, but out of reach of a lot of people's pockets...especially mine!

    However, rest assured you're in the right place for advice and assistance with your build...if there's a mistake to make, then someone on here will have made it!

    Look forward to your build log..and don't hesitate to ask questions.



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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Deep Diver (Fred) on Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:00 am

    Hi Rob

    Welcome to the forum just pull up a chair & tell all about your self, could you tell us were you come along side may be??

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 on Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:31 am

    Hi Rob,
    If you have been building surface boats for a number of years you should be fine,just take your time and ask questions.
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Giovanni LiCalsi on Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:43 am

    May the force be with you, Rob!
    And all of the Engelaphiles out there be your friends.
    Engel makes the finest kits available.
    I was fortunate enough to find an Engel Gato kit less the piston ballast tanks for only $700.00USD!
    A friend of mine bought the kit and then acquired a sweet bargain of the same kit, but completely built up.
    I also found a great deal on a 1/48th scale Type IX by ScaleShipYards.
    Just working on the WTC now.
    Kind regards,
    Giovanni

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:54 pm

    Thank you for the reassuring replies. I am expecting delivery week of 23rd Jan, I will keep you updated

    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:12 pm

    Good man Rob, and don't forget the pictures...loads of pictures. We like pictures here!



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    Good & bad news

    Post  rgj on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:12 pm

    The kit has arrived. Suitably awesome

    Bad news is I have injured my leg & cannot weight bear for 6 weeks so no work is likely to be done

    Rob


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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:21 pm

    Now that is a real downer..still, at least you'll have plenty of time to read the instructions and mentally prepare yourself for what is to come...

    Hope the leg soon gets better, mate...

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    U177

    Post  B737 on Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:23 pm

    Rob,
    A big question in this fase is whether you want to built as Engel intends and (possibly) change or improve things afterwards or start building including certain alterations from the beginning
    Regards,
    Martin

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:30 pm

    My plan was to follow the instructions.

    Seems sensible not to deviate from them as it is the first time I have built a submarine

    ATB
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    Post  B737 on Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:51 pm

    That's Ok, I did the same and when it's finished there is (almost) always a possibility to change things.
    Is the hatch covering the WTC still made of aluminium?
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:27 am

    Hatch is still aluminium, that is one thing I may change

    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:58 pm

    I have been looking at acrylic sheet for the WTC. is 8mm thickness a little too thickor would 5mm do?

    ATB
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    Post  B737 on Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:21 pm

    I use 4 mm lexaan (polycarbonate)and a 5 mm (uncompressed)soft seal.reason is the original bolts i used are too short and cannot be replaced anymore (after using Locktite).
    I have to compress the hatch and seal very hard to get the nuts on with as a result the lexaan is somewhat bulging between the bolts but NOT leaking.
    you probably will not have this problem when using 8 mm lexaan but make sure your bolts are long enough.
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:55 pm

    Thanks

    I have found a supplier that cuts to size - next day delivery - another job I can do with my leg in plaster

    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Tue Feb 07, 2012 3:52 pm






    Thanks to my "leg caddy" with basket & working in conservatory with doors open (shaking dust outside) I have started work on the conning tower.
    I found the vent holes a pain even with a Dremel & diamond files.
    Not clear from the photos is the need to support the bridge decking forward of the gun mount area. Easily done with some resin.
    Next job is paint & varnish, I will do lower gun mount deck after this. Then work up with stanchilons etc.

    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Tue Feb 07, 2012 4:36 pm

    Rob, your pics are way too small, my friend...nobody will see what you're doing.

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Tue Feb 07, 2012 5:41 pm




    OK I think I have sorted it.

    Richard- ignore my pm

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:00 pm

    Naff, just replied to it as well! Rob...ignore my reply!!

    Pics look good, by the way..
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  salmon on Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:45 pm

    Very nice indeed! Look forward to your build. Sorry about the leg.....
    Peace,
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    Post  B737 on Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:50 pm

    Pictures are looking good! If you find it difficult to drill/file all the holes especially in de fuselage it might help when you rub with a soft pencil over the holes to be drilled so you get a clearer vieuw where to drill.
    By the way what means ATB?
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:25 pm

    Thanks for the tip. I was also going to put masking tape across the top & bottom line to give more definition.

    I must say I am enjoying the build already (despite the stress of holes) , the lines of the boat are so classical. My friends cannot wait to help me launch in a few months.

    ATB = All the best

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    Another builder of U177

    Post  Ynotkayak on Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:09 pm

    Hi All,
    Found this site for looking for construction photos of the Engel U177.
    I've purchased the U177 back about August 2012 - birthday pressy to me.
    Have for many years wanted to build a T class sub, have settled for the U177 as a kit at the moment, if in the future I still have the bug I'll built a T class from scratch.
    Rob - your photos of the conning have giving me enthusiam to progress. Have been a bit slotted out! Completed one side of slots, now to do the other side. Have fun when you get to cutting the slots.

    Cheers,

    Tony
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  salmon on Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:24 pm

    Rob,
    My friends want to watch me launch my Gato, but I am not so sure about their intentions. I think they want to laugh if it sinks. :-) (it won't)
    Cheers,
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