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    Engel U177 IX D2

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    B737
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    U177

    Post  B737 on Wed Feb 15, 2012 5:11 pm

    ATB: roger, i did not know that english abbreviation.
    Any progress? No questions??
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Wed Feb 15, 2012 6:24 pm

    Hi

    Conning tower decking is in place, all holes drilled, Railings & stanchions fitted today. Periscopes & guns & hatches tomorrow.

    I will get some pictures taken then! Also have time to reflect on pitfalls.

    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:03 pm

    Good man Rob...cracking on nicely. Well done, that man...

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    Post  B737 on Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:12 pm

    You might give it some thoughts whether you attach the conning tower permanently or detachable to the upper deck.......
    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:47 am

    Hi

    I had thought of that & was going to make it attached to the hull.

    ATB
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    Post  B737 on Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:19 pm

    As you please but bear in mind that the periscoops are very vulnerable during transport when you are going to sail the boat.
    I have my periscoops detachable from the coning tower and the tower detachable from the upper deck.
    also handy for possible repairs and (possible) alterations in a later stadium
    Cheers,
    Martin

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:23 pm

    Well - guns are on stanchions in & periscopes fitted. Just needs a coat of paint now.

    It is suggested the periscopes are soldered to brass tubing but the metal they are made of has a relatively low melting point so this need to be done with great care. . In the end I epoxied mine in place I did not want to risk loosing any more length!

    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:56 pm

    Sounds like you're doing good, Rob...keep it going.

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:36 pm

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=6&u=17255696]

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=7&u=17255696]

    just started on hull holes- burble

    Excuse the mess on desk

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    Post  B737 on Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:33 pm

    that looks very good! and done in a very short time!
    keep up the good work
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    Post  B737 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:21 pm

    How many hull holes to go Rob??
    ATB,
    Martin

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:48 pm

    Hi Martin

    About 40 or so. A few to tidy up but so far so good, no huge disasters. I have photos & will upload.

    For a change I drilled the WTC lid but cannot face the middle deck holes - the metal in this seems very solid. Also my bench drill plate is too small to take the deck so need to make a bigger plate to bolt to the plate.

    The good news is I am enjoying it - just hoover up the dust in the conservatory & my wife is happy.

    Watch this space.

    ATB
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    Post  B737 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:08 pm

    are you using "metal cutting lubricant" when drilling??
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:48 pm

    Hi

    Not for the aluminium plate - I used a titanium coated drill - did not even get warm. I did not attempt to drill the middle deck. Lubricant lined up for middle deck, this is a different metal judging from the weight.

    Next job is to bolt a wooden plate onto the plate of my bench drill which is too small, this will make things easier

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:01 pm

    Slots and holes...holes and slots...I remember it so well. Drove me past the point of insanity...

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    Post  B737 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:10 pm

    Roger roger, alu no problem of course. with such a drill AND the lubricant you will easely drill the holes in the middledeck (after the conversion of your bench drill).
    regarding the holes do you choose for option 1 or 2 in the building instructions?
    martin

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:19 pm

    Hi

    I am going for the threaded bolts- looking forward to the blisters :-).

    I live very close to Fast Gaskets, who I have been in touch with. Once I can drive again I will pop there & they can manufacture a neoprene gasket which I believe is better than the seal supplied- very helpful & interested on the phone.

    Link to them is:

    http://www.fastgaskets.co.uk/2.html

    ATB
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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:48 pm

    Sit rep - no blisters!!!

    The hole tapping went smoothly, one broken drill.

    All vent holes finished.

    I am working on WTC/ middle deck/ rear bulkhead now

    I must say I am enjoying this project - new set of skills being developd

    Photos to follow.

    ATB
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    Post  B737 on Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:11 pm

    So far so good!
    Standing by for the photo's.
    Martin.

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:57 pm

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=10&u=17255696]


    Some holes done & some to do

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:00 pm

    And the middle deck in place with spacer.

    http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=11&u=17255696]

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:02 pm

    Just started on prop shaftes & rudders & rear planes. No particular problems so far - take it slow - measure 3 times double check & then fix in place

    Rob

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:25 pm

    Very nice neat holes Rob...if I remember correctly there were 534 of them in U-441.

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    Re: Engel U177 IX D2

    Post  rgj on Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:35 pm

    Thanks Richard.

    I pre drill with Dremmel, then mark top & bottom with masking tape & then hand finish. Oddly diamond file better on upper hull & standard file on lower.

    I did not count how many but not more than 200.

    Just giving some thought to storage bins on upper deck which are outboard- the plans say draw them in pen - not happy with this idea.

    ATB
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    Post  B737 on Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:20 pm

    Thanks Rob!
    Getting along nicely.
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