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    New project - USS Nautilus

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    New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Mon Oct 06, 2014 8:42 pm

    So I started designing a new project. Smaller this time, about 1,1 meters long. As this is an English speaking board, the boat might be recognized:



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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  david f on Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:07 am

    Hi,

    A USS Nautilus , is it not?

    If so, not a very common model (I can't think of one.)

    Looking forward to seeing your build log.

    David


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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:21 pm

    Yes, it's the Nautilus.



    After my 180 cm U-1 this will be a small one, with only 111 cm length. And  I'm surprised, that it is a rare boat, as I think that this actually a very beatiful one. But maybe the tilted double propeller setup makes it hard to build....
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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  acrowot (Geof) on Wed Oct 08, 2014 12:35 pm

    Keep us posted looking forward to seeing your build on this one

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  merriman on Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:28 pm

    Dr.Schmidt wrote:So I started designing a new project. Smaller this time, about 1,1 meters long. As this is an English speaking board, the boat might be recognized:


    May I be of assistance? I converted the big DeBoer NAUTILUS back to the 'as built' configuraton and r/c'ed it.

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:18 pm

    Sure, any infomation is welcome......

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:32 pm

    Put some more work ind designing the stern section. Some more details and the basics of the boat are done:



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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Hermann on Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:09 pm

    david f wrote:Hi,

    A USS Nautilus ,  is it not?

    If so, not a very common model (I can't think of one.)...


    Hello David,

    it'true, the USS NAUTILUS cannot be found very often as a working submarine model.

    But there is at least one model built already since about 25 years ago by a submarine modeller friend living at Hamburg, Michael Strube is his Name. As I know his model is in scale 1:87 (the model railway HO gauge scale) or 1:100 scale. It is built as single hull type with a technics rack that is combined with the stern section. The rack with all the electrical and mecanical components can be plugged out for easy access.
    It has a piston tank diving system built by himself (like the whole model is of his own design) and besides a leveling electronics it has also an automatic depth Regulation that enables static hovering. Also periscope and antennas can be erected out of the sail. In the past I have seen that model on many occasions (exhibitions and submarine modeller meetings) but it seems that for the last years Michael has retired from submarine modelling since he had set his focus on model sailing. Unfortunately I haven't found some photographs yet.
    Nevertheless his model has been famous for reliable operation during many years of Service. Michael had also started to build a model of the USS PERMIT class but I don't know whether he has already finished it yet.

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Hermann on Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:24 pm

    ...I have found a picture of very bad quality and I hav emade a cut-out of that NAUTILUS model. Besides (in White colour) you can see Michael's PERMIT in dismantled state, like in the next Picture. In the second picture the NAUTILUS was just on the pond at the Moment when the photograph was taken.
    The Pictures were taken on the Exhibition at Neumuenster, northern Germany, in 2005.

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:42 am

    My sub will be 1/87 as well....
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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  profesorul on Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:54 pm

    Hello @Hermann ,

    Regarding Your new project I have some where on a closed some blue print with these sub . Not Very accurate - I assume , are from a very old modeling magazine published in Romania and I don't know about the scale .
    If I can make some pictures with them , I can post them here if You think is helpful ?. I don't have a scanner .

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:36 pm

    Thanks, but I'm pretty much through with the basic design. I had some blueprints and some photos. I guess that's accurate as possible.

    Cheers Andreas

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:41 pm

    The basic concept is done:

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  david f on Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:01 am

    Very nice Andreas and we look forward to seeing the your build log roll out.

    Twin brushless motors?

    Speaking with my Administrators hat on, do you mind if you or we add USS Nautilus to the title of this thread?

    (It makes it that much easier for folks to find it in future (searchable etc.))

    David

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:31 am

    Sure, rename the thread. And yes, twin brushless. I use them in the U-1 and they are small and work splendidly.

    Cheers Andreas
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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  david f on Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:01 pm

    Hi Andeas,

    What sort of brushless motors do you intend to use?

    I say this because one of the things that seems to limit their use in submarines is:

    - tend to be very high revving (gearboxes!!?)
    - too many to choose from.

    I asked a similar question to the Sonar members at the Dortmund show and they said that they tend to have them specially wound.

    Are there easily commercially available brushless motors which would do the job?

    For example, how about this one :

    3508-380KV Turnigy Multistar 14 Pole Brushless Multi-Rotor Motor With Extra Long Leads

    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__41615__3508_380KV_Turnigy_Multistar_14_Pole_Brushless_Multi_Rotor_Motor_With_Extra_Long_Leads.htmlCUR=GBP&LOC=GB&LAN=ENG&gclid=CIi5u7PBwMECFabLtAodhx0AhA

    I have never used a brushless in a submarine yet but this looks compact and low revving because it is multi pole.

    David

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:29 pm

    ROXXY© BL-Outr. C35-30-45 300kv

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    ROXXY® BL-Outr. C35-29 500kv

    The 35-29 ones are driving my U-1

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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  david f on Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:59 am

    Thanks for the information, Andreas.

    So that it is a 14 pole motor which will be doing only 3000rpm at 10v.

    Also very small - I am beginning to see the attractions of brushless!

    David

    http://www.robbe.de/roxxy-bl-outr-c35-30-45-300kv.html


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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:26 am

    It's all about the size. Also my self-designed water-tight feed through saves allot of space in the interior of the wtc, as it moves the motor right to the stern bulkhead. The complete length of the wtc with a 750 ml Engel piston tank is only about 60 cm.


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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:50 pm

    The CAD files for the milling of the moulds are getting ready:


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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:20 pm

    Small stuff has to be designed as well......e.g. hatches:


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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:26 pm

    While waiting for the first milled pre forms for the fuselage, I spent some time drawing details:


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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:53 am

    Starts to look like a boat......the small stuff takes extremely long to draw


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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:23 pm

    Just got a package......:D










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    Re: New project - USS Nautilus

    Post  Dr.Schmidt on Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:04 pm

    Propeller design....




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