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    X craft build

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Thu Jan 16, 2014 9:44 pm

    profesorul wrote:If Is not against the Forum policy can You say where did You get those rodes ?

    MARIUS

    I bought them via mail order from a shop called Sussex Model Centre, they are made for use in model aircraft by an American company called Sullivan. About £3.something, I think.


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    Re: X craft build

    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:20 pm

    profesorul wrote:If Is not against the Forum policy can You say where did You get those rodes ?

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    Hi Marius,
    They are sullivan snakes,you should be able to get them from,Ripmax.

    http://www2.ripmax.net/

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  profesorul on Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:38 am

    THANK YOU both .

    Are also called otherwise , because I did not find anything by that name !.

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:02 am

    profesorul wrote:THANK YOU both .

    Are also called otherwise , because I did not find anything by that name !.

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    go onto link I put up(ripmax) Aircraft accessories>linkages>snakes.

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  profesorul on Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:43 pm

    YES , now Is Clear . THANK YOU

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    P.S. there are rigid enough for the submarine commands?.
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    Re: X craft build

    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:32 pm

    Yes they should be,the problem is they have no seals so water can over a period of time seep through between the outer and the inner, this can be cured by fitting a small length of silicon tube over the last inch or so of the outer and allowing it to contact the inner by about one sixteenth of an inch.

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:02 pm

    I plucked up the courage this morning, and made a start on the dreaded task of opening up the flood slots, it went a lot easier than I ever thought it would. I'm quite pleased with the results so far.

    Also done a bit more to the deck detailing...I think that will probably be enough, after all, the boat is nowhere near a scale model.








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    side cargo

    Post  willte on Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:21 pm

    nice build there are you fitting side cargo as well


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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:59 pm

    I hadn't thought of doing that, Willie...don't know yet.

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  tattooed on Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:49 pm

    looking great mate up to your normal high standards

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:57 pm

    Thanks Andy, it's coming along. I've set myself the target of having it operational for Norwich, might just about make it.


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    Flood Holes and Periscopes

    Post  george jure on Sat Jan 18, 2014 10:26 pm

    Hello Richard

    IT`s George from Canada. I reread your build of the X craft and I have definitely caught the fever. I have a question for you about the multiple little flood holes, from the Darnell planes, they are shown as 3/32, is that big enough to let water through? Also in your reply before about your source of the periscopes, you did NOT say which ones to order, the First TWO? BUT here in the build, I see more then two and one on the side that pivots, so again how many are there and which from the other source are they?

    Also Thank You for mentioning about the hatches, I would have just ordered a pair without realizing that they are BEST if they are exactly matched.

    Thank Again for your Build post Richard, Look forward to seeing more. No pressure.

    George

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:45 pm

    george jure wrote: Hello Richard

    IT`s George from Canada. I reread your build of the X craft and I have definitely caught the fever. I have a question for you about the multiple little flood holes, from the Darnell planes, they are shown as 3/32, is that big enough to let water through? Also in your reply before about your source of the periscopes, you did NOT say which ones to order, the First TWO? BUT here in the build, I see more then two and one on the side that pivots, so again how many are there and which from the other source are they?

    Also Thank You for mentioning about the hatches, I would have just ordered a pair without realizing that they are BEST if they are exactly matched.

    Thank Again for your Build post Richard, Look forward to seeing more. No pressure.

    George

    Hi George,

    Regarding the periscopes, you want the top two on the page I sent you the link to. The one you mentioned that pivots is called the Hezlet Rail, it's what the skipper holds onto when navigating the boat on the surface. There's also a voice pipe to go on it when I figure out how to make it. The other one isn't a periscope, but an air induction tube.

    The holes are 1/16'' at the moment, but according to Nigel, who has built an X craft, they really need to be opened up to 1/8'', so I may have to go down that route with mine.



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    Re: X craft build

    Post  george jure on Sun Jan 19, 2014 2:22 am

    Hi Richard

    Thanks for the clearing up of my periscope and flood hole questions. I really like the last set of pictures you have posted of your build.

    From where did you get the sizes of the other hatches that you made? Also can you tell me what size of drill did you use to cut out the two hatches in the deck?

    Thanks Richard
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    Re: X craft build

    Post  nigele(ADMIN)2 on Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:50 am

    FILM 4, 11-00 AM above us the waves,John Mills raid on the Tirpitz.

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:52 am

    george jure wrote:Hi Richard

    Thanks for the clearing up of my periscope and flood hole questions. I really like the last set of pictures you have posted of your build.

    From where did you get the sizes of the other hatches that you made? Also can you tell me what size of drill did you use to cut out the two hatches in the deck?

    Thanks Richard
    George

    George, these are the 'scopes you need to order:



    Re; the hatches...I ordered them from Models By Design, Andy made me a new pair(you want two of the larger ones)
    I just drilled a series of small holes around the marked out areas, and then filed the holes to size.


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    large holes

    Post  willte on Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:59 am

    don't know if this makes you shudder or not but when I drill large holes in abs or plastic I use wood drills the flat blade type
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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:39 am

    This will make you shudder, Willie...but I use the first ones that come to hand! I really must buy some new drill bits after all these holes and slots I've done in the X craft, mine are really past their sell by date now, as are my small files. The fibreglass is so thick on these mouldings it destroys tools in a flash...but I'm nearly there...six more slots to open, and I'm done with them. The drill is on charge now, when it's ready I'll finish the last ones off.


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    Re: X craft build

    Post  george jure on Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:20 am

    Hello Again Richard

    Thanks for the reply but I think you misunderstood my question. You cleared up the crew hatches for me but I was asking about those other rectangular flat hatches, where did you get their sizes from and locations etc.? Also what about a source for rivets if I wanted to go to that extreme, what size are they?

    About the small 1/8" flood holes, do they go right through the planes etc or just go below the surface?

    Thanks Again Richard

    George

    P.S.  I contacted the source of the periscopes BUT they tell me they do not deal with paypal. I only like to use paypal for my internet purchases. Any suggestions on how I can get the two periscopes?

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:48 am

    Those hatches are just made from styrene, George...sizes and positions I took from the large plan I sent you. Don't forget that X craft were built in different yards all over the country, and built from whatever was laying about in the builder's yard, so every one is probably different. I've seen X 24 close up, and it differs greatly from the photos and plans of other X craft I've seen.

    The planes are drilled right through on some boats, X 24 doesn't have any holes in the planes at all.

    As for the rivets, I haven't a clue where you'd get them from...model railway websites, maybe?


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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:10 pm

    It gives me immense pleasure to announce the fact that I have finished drilling and filing the flood holes and slots in X9.
    I have drilled in excess of 250 1/8'' or 1/16'' holes, drilled and filed to an oval shape 26 flood slots of varying lengths, plus the ten 6mm flood holes in the keel.

    Then there's the 30+ 1mm holes drilled in the various hatches on the deck, each of which has to have a 1mm cheese head screw inserted into them, plus the odd holes for the periscopes, the Hezlett Rail, and other various holes for the deck fittings and guard rails, etc.

    I never want to see another drill or a file for as long as I live....

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  willte on Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:41 pm

    that question about rivets try e-bay type micro rivets in the search box may get what you want
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    Re: X craft build

    Post  profesorul on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:05 am

    Richard(Admin) wrote:It gives me immense pleasure to announce the fact that I have finished drilling and filing the flood holes and slots in X9.
    I have drilled in excess of 250 1/8'' or 1/16'' holes, drilled and filed to an oval shape 26 flood slots of varying lengths, plus the ten 6mm flood holes in the keel.

    Then there's the 30+ 1mm holes drilled in the various hatches on the deck, each of which has to have a 1mm cheese head screw inserted into them, plus the odd holes for the periscopes, the Hezlett Rail, and other various holes for the deck fittings and guard rails, etc.

    I never want to see another drill or a file for as long as I live....

    You know what they say : " NEVER say NEVER "

    Any way is time to take a deep breath , a small Brandy and ( if the doctors say YES !!! ) , maybe a cigar or a pipe like a real sea wolf, huh?

    MARIUS

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    Re: X craft build

    Post  Tom(ADMIN) on Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:44 am

    I took the deep breath, had a large whisky, rolled a smoke...then found three more holes that needed drilling out!

    Then just now I discovered that I'd made a mistake opening one of the slots in the bow section, so now I have to repair it...


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    Re: X craft build

    Post  george jure on Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:58 pm

    Hi Richard

    Could you please explain from your post 96 what do you mean by cheese head screws? Where do they go?
    Thanks Richard

    Where are the updated pictures? You got me hooked and now I need another fix!

    George

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